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[Choose #3] this is a subject i brought to my dive shop owers attention. Recently i went to do my advanced open water and ended up being the only one in the class due to online training. I feel myself that i take more out of a classroom then online
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[Choose #3] If you’re at 60 ft, where will your book be if you need to know something?
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[Choose #3] No on-line. You cannot replace an instructor. They can tell if a student requires more help!
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[Choose #4] Nothing bad about shops or instructors because mine made sure I knew very well what I was doing. But online or book at home leaves too much room for less concerned shops to turn out production line divers.
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[Choose #1] If there is a review and final test with the instructor, that should be fine. That’s how we did it in my class.
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[Choose #1] I think there are many intelligent people out there who can teach themselves with the proper resources. Most will learn best with traditional classroom environment and the most hours possible.
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[Choose #4] knowledge online is fine... test should be in person.
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[Choose #4] I think that even the classroom should not be allowed. I would rather see people getting trained out in the field, that should be your classroom.
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[Choose #4] They already do this
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[Choose #3] there needs to be interaction and Q&A with instructor (online ok if it’s by interactive chat with instructor)
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[Choose #3] scuba diving takes requires a commitment to yourself, your buddy and the environment. i believe that traditional classes and pool work reinforce that commitment
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[Choose #2] beginning knowledge should be taught in a classroom environment learning the concept incorrectly can be disasterous
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[Choose #1] I think for the knowledge portion should be allowed for both, It allows for a more convience, of course all practicle exercises should be conducted under the watchful eye of an experienced dive master
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[Choose #2] Creating poorly trained divers in order to make an extra buck is not acceptable in my opinion. If a student doesn’t know the material they will simply look through the book for the answer.
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[Choose #4] Online and home testing would be fine except there is no way to be sure the student is actually taking the test and not cheating by letting someone else take it for them. This makes it imperative that an instructor verify the students knowledge.
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[Choose #3] good for the agency bad for the local dive shop
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[Choose #2] study and review at home then classroom
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[Choose #1] So you still have to print out the exam and take it to your instructor with the agency I use...
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[Choose #3] I learned a lot more from the classroom than I would have from an online program.
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[Choose #2] No cheatting, more direct, someboddy can answer questions
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[Choose #2] The younger generation has been raised with the computer and often learns best in this environment. If book study @home, test under supervision. Scuba info needs to be memorized, not looked-up. No books underwater if U get in trouble...
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[Choose #2] Ensures knowledge is really gone over and the student has an oppertunity to learn from others
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[Choose #2] I certified via SSI. They are online study/class prep only. We then had lecture and ultimately testing in the class. I would not want to do without out the class discussion because a lot of good explanation came out of that.
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[Choose #2] People might just do the test by help of book rather than learning them and doing the test.
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Shez - 8/20/2010 12:37 PM
[Choose #3] I think learning is a two way thing and the instructor needs to be present with the pupil in order to ensure the correct level of training is received, the test is just evidence of that
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[Choose #2] can’t look at a manual underwater
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[Choose #3] While I am not an instructor, it is always best to have an interpersonal instruction time so the studens skills and knowledge can be properly assest
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[Choose #2] both are acceptable but not just online
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trace - 8/19/2010 1:57 AM
[Choose #3] old school perhaps, traditional you can ask questions al you go
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[Choose #3] There is no feedback from a Dive Master Online.. You have to teach people different ways and give real life examples to fully understand diving concepts. Online may work for Math 101, but not for Diving.
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[Choose #2] The test should be taken at a location to limit cheating
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[Choose #3] I feel that those that learn online really suffer by not having a live instructor to ask questions of when they come up.
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[Choose #2] Online can be timed to make sure they aren’t cheating...
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[Choose #2] Finals should be taken with the instructor
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[Choose #1] And the option to have the confined water dive instructor verify knowledge was retained before proceeding.
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[Choose #4] I don’t think online should be an option for a basic open water class, but should be allowed for certain specialty classes.
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[Choose #3] in the traditional classroom you can see if the student is familiar with the subject or if he is just faking it
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[Choose #1] It allows flexibility to those with busy schedules.
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[Choose #3] I do not think online they get the knowledge they would need to know that they get from classroom.
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[Choose #4] Depends on the subject matter
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[Choose #3] A solid grasp of the knowledge is needed when putting yourself in a technical environment
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[Choose #3] Traditional classroom allows for the student to gains from actual experienced the instructor might discuss, which is unavailable in canned online courses..
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[Choose #1] Although i think both should be allowed, I prefer the online method. With today’s techology I do not see the printed materials being used much longer.
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[Choose #1] You should be allowed to take the test and exam at home so you can do it on your time. But the instructor should ask you a lot of questions to make sure you understand the knowledge.
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[Choose #3] Open book final exams will lead to a spike in diving deaths IMHO
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[Choose #3] I feel hands on traing is best for this type of activity.
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[Choose #4] Training should be offered VIA class room or E-learning. Exams should be done only in person under supervision of a certified Instructor.
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[Choose #3] online can’t deal with some of the issues people have. To the industry it’s usually all about the money!
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[Choose #4] its kindof a tough call, because really, the student is responsible for retaining the info they learn. if you cheat on this, its life and death mistakes. its not like you get a do-over 100 ft deep. learn it, live it.
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[Choose #3] i believe the classroom you get more instruction
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[Choose #2] There’s no reason they shouldn’t be able to study the material online and take chapter reviews. But a written final should ONLY be given in the presence of an instructor WITHOUT an open book! This is life or death knowledge students must KNOW!
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[Choose #1] I think we all agree it’s getting the knowlege in, and being able to demonstrate it. The exams are pretty casual even in classroom anyway.. the demontration should be more crutial though for online
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[Choose #4] Learning online or at home or in classroom is ok final exam should be taken in classroom only
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[Choose #3] Many people like easy way out.I’ve heard students asking an already certified person to take the test for them...diving is playing with your life if you don’t know the basic rules...I’d take exams as serious as possible,in person,in classroom!
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[Choose #1] Online pricing is currently too high for Padi courses.
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[Choose #3] Should be in front of a instructor in the classroom. Helps you get more out of the course that your paying for to be as safe as you can be in the water!
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[Choose #1] If you can take the test on a computer, there should be no reason not to take a printed test. I think an instructor review is a good idea. It’s a nice convenience for some people with limited time.
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[Choose #3] It is hard to ask a computer screen a Question..
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[Choose #3] With a sport where your life & the life of others is a stake any chance for cheating should not be allowed. Self testing is like performing self surgery. Leave it to a professional.
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[Choose #4] Online allowed, but exam should be taken in traditional classroom or proctored where education testing is offered (e.g. school, library, military ed office, etc)
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[Choose #4] It’s my believe that more can be learned at one’s own pace, but not everything can be learned without proper instruction. Online learning has its advantages, but classroom learning engages the learner in a way that online learning cannot.
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[Choose #1] If PADI and other agencies agree that it can be done online then who are we to judge. It’s hard to fine time to take classes these days. The online class portion sounds fine to me, as long as the skills are still done with a licensed instructor.
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[Choose #4] On line is OK but it doesn’t replace being in the classroom with the instructior. New divers need to know the instructor, after all this is the person they are going to be underwater with. It also increases the cost of the lessons for the new diver.
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[Choose #2] trusting for honesty isn’t always the best idea.. there has to be some sort of control.
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[Choose #4] you have to pay twice 1 to take the online oart 2 for the instructor to train you in the water
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[Choose #2] there is pros and cons to both but I feel the one on one experience with the instructors makes for a better and more confident diver.
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[Choose #3] traditional is best,, more learning not just good test taking
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[Choose #1] online is good becouse some times we don’t have time to go to a dive shop for classes it works out for singel mom’s and dad’s
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[Choose #2] With the PADI Online courses, the students come to their pool and open water sessions more prepared that even those students that are supposed to do their work and videos before they come to class. Online works very well.
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[Choose #3] A life surviving sport should require professional traditional training for numerous reasons.
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[Choose #1] some people will always like and do better in private online while other benefit from the interaction of a classroom environment.
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[Choose #2] I have only had classroom time, but I could see where having some of the class time online would be helpful to the person that has a schedule that won’t work with the local dive shops.
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[Choose #1] however final exams should be done in the classroom
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Pixel - 8/04/2010 2:41 PM
[Choose #3] It’s always better to learn in class with something that where one little mistake could potentially kill you or someone else.
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theop - 8/04/2010 11:03 AM
[Choose #1] as long as the intructor is available to explain or clarify the online material - there is nothing wrong with self study. Of course the quality of the study materials ( online or text ) is important
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[Choose #1] I did my coursework online and felt it was convenient and thorough
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[Choose #3] because it will be more detail and clear if we got the explanation directly from the instructor, diving is fun but it must be safety first.
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[Choose #3] interaction with other students and their questions may be helpful where an online student may not be exposed to the question let alone the answer. A classroom also allows you to meet other divers and form friendships and dive buddies in the future.
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[Choose #3] Anyone can take the class for you if it is done online. Plus you don’t have the ability to have that one on one experience with the instructor.
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[Choose #3] It’s too easy to cheat and that makes a hardship on the Instructor
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[Choose #3] Students can not get questions answered in a timely fasson
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[Choose #2] Help should be given to those who can not pass.
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[Choose #4] I think some is not a bad thing but most training should be in a classroom with a trainer as it is best to learn from experianced trained divers.
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[Choose #1] Although studying at home is fine, there are always some people who would need questions answered and it definitely helps to have the instructor right there.
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[Choose #4] I have made many trips diving with someone I thought was a trained diver, turns out he had been diving with friends before I came along. Good judgement, and skills makes good divers, not books.
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[Choose #2] I FEEL TIME SPENT WITH A INSTRUCTOR MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE
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[Choose #1] If you allow one then the other should be also. I believe in instructors and class time as being the best though.
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[Choose #1] I dont want to spend vacation days in a classroom, and many places are not convenient for traditional classes
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[Choose #2] You should take tests in the classroom but online learning allows you to take the test without looking in the book and notifies the shop of your progress
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[Choose #3] I’m old school-
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[Choose #4] On line course classroom test. You need to get it. Everyones too spoiled with computers
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[Choose #3] Not eveyone can understand dive physics among other subjects without someone there to explain. I had a girlfriend do the PADI online OW class. I thought it was very good, except she needed me there to explain a lot of things.
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[Choose #1] If one then the other. I did the online class before going to Saba and not only did it save time(I spent good money to go) but it also made it possible for me to have my first two dives the first afternoon after my pool time.
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ozphx - 7/25/2010 10:19 AM
[Choose #3] Hands on is the best way!
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[Choose #1] No logical reason for one to be okay and not the other.
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[Choose #1] Until more people are online I don’t think it’s okay to discriminate between those with technology and thsoe without.
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[Choose #3] I’m concerned with safety. Online is handy, but I worry about it becoming the default mode esp. because it has to be designed really well to work, and doesn’t give the student access to the instructor’s expertise. Also, it undercuts local shops.
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[Choose #3] traditional classroom setting so all questions can be answered
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[Choose #3] From my own experience, I needed the onhands instructor. There were questions that the book just couldn’t answer and things that had to be repeated to the class that some weren’t understanding. A book can’t possibly answer all questions.
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[Choose #2] Book with an online final exam would be acceptable as would book with protored exam.
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[Choose #4] I think students should be allowed to study at home, but should not be given the test to take at home. The exam should not be an open book test.
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[Choose #3] too many bad trained divers already around, this supports to have divers in the end who have no clue about what is important to know (especially to not bring you and your buddy in emergency situations)
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[Choose #3] I think instructors should be there to guide the student
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[Choose #1] Allows student to take classroom session at their own pace!
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[Choose #1] the idea is to get them in the water with an instructor, instructors should make the final evaluation for certification
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[Choose #1] Why would reading a book be any different from reading a screen?
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[Choose #2] Some people will just look up the answers without studing the book.
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[Choose #2] Online should be Knowledge ONLY
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[Choose #1] but prefer classroom training,,,,,,it is the bEST
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[Choose #3] There isn’t any way to know if the "student" is actually completing the training!
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[Choose #3] It’s becoming too easy to get certified... thus making the sport less safe
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[Choose #2] Keep good ethics and instructor’s experience can be very beneficial.
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[Choose #2] Having the instructor "go over" all the issues is a great help.
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[Choose #1] Whether you are reading the material from a book or on a computer screen, it doesn’t matter. You still should have to demonstrate that you know the course material by taking a test in the presence of the course instructor.
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[Choose #3] This is a dangerous hobby and without proper interpretation of the material, It could lead to deadly consequences. That’s why the classroom with feedback from a Cert. Scuba instructor are so important.
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[Choose #4] Either option is fine, but you really get a whole lot more out of learning in the classroom. Intructors are able to share real life experiences, not something you can get online.
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[Choose #3] traditional is just much better
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[Choose #3] You need the classroom environmentto get the best possible training.
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[Choose #3] it is a safety and learning issue
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[Choose #1] Studying at home helps cut time for dive shop and student. I don’t think its necessary for the student to sit in the classroom to read through the manual. It would be important for the instructor to review and give exam before confined portion.
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[Choose #4] Put the online test up for certified divers with a C Card registration to access and repeat.
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[Choose #4] I guess either way wouldn’t hurt. And I do know some cavemen and cavewomen that don’t have internet access yet. This would help them out.
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[Choose #2] Anyone can take the exam if it is not supervised
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[Choose #2] I feel that you need the training and input of your instructor as well as the online classes.
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[Choose #2] with the paper exam, it is more easier to cheat then it is for the online exam, can be set not to look back.
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[Choose #4] students should be able to take the course online or at home in print form but that should have to take the tests in class with an instructor.
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scott - 7/20/2010 3:11 PM
[Choose #3] I do classes and test on line for fire fighting and don’t retain a damn thing. Get in the class and pay attention or it’s a free ticket to a long nap
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[Choose #3] The dive shop where I got certified didn’t reduce the price of the course enough to benefit taking the course online first. I also like that book in my hand and within easy reach (call me old fashioned!)
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jbear - 7/20/2010 2:01 PM
[Choose #2] offering a portion online allows more people the opportunity to get cert. but i draw the line with the exam. Students/divers need to truely know the info, they will be on ’life support’ when under water. at hm they’ll probably skim for answers.
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[Choose #3] thIS IS THE DUMBING DOWN of the industry. Why don’t we just ship them a full tank while we are at it.
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[Choose #3] you can figure the reasons for this on your own..... diving is a dangerous sport in the hands of those without proper experience
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[Choose #3] there’s too much information that an experienced instructor can offer in the classroom, online classes are BS.
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[Choose #2] The NAUI e-learning course is set up to only allow students to continue to the next chapter once they have satisfactorily completed the previous chapter. This will ensure that all the needed material is covered prior to the online exam.
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[Choose #3] There is a need to see the student and judge his/her competency in person. There is a need to see if the student can read adequately to understand warnings and instructions.
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[Choose #2] to easy to copy the test and give it away
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[Choose #3] benefit of instructors and knowledge retention any one can take a test with the reference material at hand
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[Choose #3] I hate to say it but people take the course together and someone who’s serious might cover for someone who’s not. I’d hate to be buddied with the slacker in the event I need someone who was paying attention.
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[Choose #3] Loss of life is a reallity if a diver does not fully understand the basic physics of diving. The knowledge required to dive safely should be explained by an experienced instructor
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[Choose #3] Classroom tests require people to study/learn the material, not just look up each answer.
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[Choose #1] As long as the examiner does check that the student has completed the work at home & does know the aswers to some random questions as a double check.
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[Choose #1] Some people still don’t have internet. Knowledge portion is self based. These should be followed up by classes, Final exam still needs to be with the instuctor!
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mcs59 - 7/20/2010 7:11 AM
[Choose #2] online training should be allowed but final taken at dive shop so student and instructor can review missed answers. Online traing does allow instructor to spend more time in water instead of classroom.
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[Choose #4] Online can’t replace the classroom for certain certifications...The student needs to have access to the real world experience of the Pro...
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[Choose #1] Yes, for sure. Distance Learning is an incredible aspect of modern life but taking a class with no book that you can read and reference later in the future is a negative. Users can read the book on a plane, and log in and take an exam from anywhere
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[Choose #2] exam should still be conducted face to face
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[Choose #3] instructors are needed to make important aspects of a course stick in a students mind. they need to answer questions that may be ignored or passed up if course is exclusively online
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[Choose #3] Students learn better when they interact. Online is just a way for the certification agencies to make a larger more consistent profit.
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[Choose #4] I feel that both are useful because of busy schedules but the exams should not be allowed to be done alone due to possible cheating unless there is another exam done with instructor present to make sure they really understand the knowledge.
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Garen - 7/20/2010 2:40 AM
[Choose #3] Safety is very important and sometimes people tend to cheat, so its better if the instructor supervises and explains then take the exam.
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[Choose #3] Online students do not get the experience and knowledge given by a divepro. When they get to the pool they are behind the others amd holding up the class.
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[Choose #3] ONline learning in any situation doesn’t allow for the question and answer interaction that is an essential part of learning
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[Choose #3] I belive tests should be taken in a classroom without open books
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[Choose #4] The knowledge of a diver needs to be tested in a way that will ensure a diver can dive safely
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[Choose #3] The knowledge reqiured to dive is too complex for online learning. Instructor answers questions, elaborates on basic book info. Info that keeps you alive and safe.
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[Choose #1] How you study isn’t important as long as the tests are supervised.
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[Choose #3] When taking online courses, you don’t know who is really filling out the answers. I don’t want to dive with someone who had cheated on the test.
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[Choose #4] Online would be fine for knowledge reviews and learning but the Final should be supervised classroom only imho and no take home "FINAL TEST"
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[Choose #1] Different people have different learning styles. What ever works for training the people who want to learn to dive!
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[Choose #1] Still a final test should be required before blow bubbles
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[Choose #4] classroom testing only! To assure correct answers
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[Choose #1] We must keep the things easy, when you go in your hollydays you don’t want to spend your week with the readings. you don’t get all the info in the run.
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[Choose #2] I have no problem with online training, the exam should be proctored
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[Choose #3] Home exams allow for cheating. On a different note, the classroom environment helped to build a team (buddy) environment which is so important in diving.
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[Choose #2] I have on word, Feedback!
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Gerry - 7/19/2010 8:48 PM
[Choose #2] It’s too easy to forget the material unless you take the test in person.
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[Choose #2] I think you still need the instructor time, and you miss out on a lot of things that the teacher has to add
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[Choose #3] Too easy to cheat. Puts unsafe diver in the water.
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[Choose #1] In my profession I develop a lot of training material. Different people learn by different methods. While some are strictly book people, others absorb more information through video media. The important thing is getting the point accross.
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[Choose #3] When questions are asked by students, one learns from them. At home, one may have never thought in that direction. Also, one question may lead to another. The more questions, the more one learns .
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[Choose #1] Learning online allowed but not require and all testing other than chapter reviews must be done in a classroom.
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[Choose #3] class room work allows the instructor time to get to know the student and ensure it is the student that completed the exam
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[Choose #1] Sometimes, it’s hard to schedule time with an instructor. A good instructor should be able to tell if the student knows everything they need and can perform everything necessary in the water before issuing a certification card.
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[Choose #2] You need to have some kind of real test
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[Choose #3] I feel if you are in a classroom an insrtuctor can help you understand what you are reading.
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[Choose #1] if the online submission is closed off so not to go back and change right then, time delay before taking again or back to LDS to retake
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[Choose #2] Most new divers have so many questions, and benefit from the interaction with instructor and other students.
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[Choose #1] My experience shows that students who show up for class prepared, make much better and safer divers.
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CMOST - 7/19/2010 7:06 PM
[Choose #1] Most training agencies help troubled students through the class. It would look bad if they don’t pass.
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conch - 7/19/2010 6:57 PM
[Choose #3] Though I know that there are a significant number of people out there who would go through the online class fine and become great divers, its those who can’t that scare me.
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[Choose #3] Online learning can lead to cheating and creating a few divers that are untrained.
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[Choose #4] It’s important that the student learns and knows the material - open book isn’t going to help. Final exams should be givine in person
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[Choose #1] If you are comfortable learning that way its fine as long as you are tested at the end of the course by an instructor
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[Choose #4] I think students should have to take the ’final’ exam at a dive shop
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[Choose #3] Online and at home allow too much variation in how well the knowledge soaks in. There is no substitute for the classroom experience. Lives are at stake, so convenience to come second to rigor.
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[Choose #1] For adult learners I would expect the take home test would be good. Perhaps the checkout should be more scutenized.
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[Choose #3] very easy to cheat w/online
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[Choose #3] Diving is life and death. As a teacher, I have seen how online and at-home classes have been abused. It is not critical for 9th grade English, but slacking on SCUBA 101 can be fatal.
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[Choose #3] Safety is #1 - You lose a lot of input by highly experienced divers when you choose to "learn" on-line
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[Choose #3] Not only will traditional classroom allow more participation, it adds alot to the experience!
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[Choose #3] it is important to be able to debrief after the exam incase some of the questions are not fully understood
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[Choose #2] Can do some online sections but should hear from the instructor-that is a good way to ensure to the instructor that the individual understands the competencies. if take with an open book might not completely understand the complexities of diving
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manny - 7/19/2010 5:31 PM
[Choose #1] today everything should be online
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[Choose #4] ONLINE CLASS should be used for keeping up on skills- but by no means should it be used in leu of direct personal contact with a D I in fact I believe that personal confidence would be better served with more 1 on 1 interaction....
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[Choose #2] this stuff can save your life so learn it the right way
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[Choose #1] I think that letting people take the course online is Ok as long as you are required to do a review with your instructor so he or she can make sure that you have understood and retained what you have covered.
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[Choose #4] classroom removes the "I dont understand", can present info in different way
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[Choose #1] The final exam should not be allowed on the internet. In the classroom is the only place to ensure the student knows the material. It is about safety, right?
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[Choose #2] Some questions can only be answered through the experience of an instructor
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[Choose #2] To read on your own and do the book work is one thing, but I feel an instructor should still conduct a review session followed by the final exam.
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[Choose #3] i know how badly e learning thigns work from when my company has us do them for regulatory things, it turns it into a chore that you get done as fast as you can without actually remembering anything 24 hours later
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[Choose #3] as other students may have questions, which can benefit a fellow diver
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[Choose #3] I feel it is important for constant evaluation in the instruction process. Maybe wouldn’t be so important if it weren’t so easy to get hurt through lack of training. There are indicators that the instructors should be able to key on if they feel
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[Choose #3] questions need to be asked and an interactive classroom is the best when it could be life saving
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[Choose #1] final exam should have to be done by instructor so its not open book
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[Choose #3] i feel the benefits of classroom instruction greatly enhance the students retention of the subject.
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[Choose #1] Although classroom would be ideal it is completely unfeasible for most people. Doing things online and at home, I feel the student actually learns more and studies more, seeing the fact that they really do not know what to expect at the dive class.
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[Choose #4] i like the online readiness to go to a classroom environment, but if you dont have the on hand instruction your looking for trouble, self study?? i like having a professional there to ask questions of when i need it!
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[Choose #3] old sckool you can cheat ,,but you only cheat yourself
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[Choose #4] I personally prefer classroom with personal interaction with the instructor.
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[Choose #2] I think the final exam should always be done without the use of a book to help you
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[Choose #4] Some online training is OK, for open water- no way, need to be classroom.
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[Choose #1] I think it creates a better opportunity to allow more individuals access to scuba educational programs. It affords those whom don’t have time to spend in the classroom the ability to take the classes and then do the checkout dives on their timetable
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jeffh - 7/19/2010 3:01 PM
[Choose #1] if you can pass the test and work the dive tables after doing everything online you won’t have a problem with the rest of the stuff.
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[Choose #3] WHile some on-line training is good and sufficient, one cannot gain the entire amount of knowledge and benefit from an instructors experience without face to face time
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[Choose #3] it is to easy to find the answers on-line, you sould be able to know the material off the top of your head.
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[Choose #1] it depends on whether or not a proctor is required
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[Choose #3] Taking the instructor out of the equation eliminates the instructor experience out of the equation. The more experience the instructor adds to the instructional mix, the better experience the student will have, and value added to the overall expience
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[Choose #3] Some people might take advantage of the trust needed.
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[Choose #3] you can’t offer the variety of ways to learn without real-person contact; learning is better/longer-lasting when a variety of senses are employed
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[Choose #2] dont make too easy
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[Choose #3] I believe online training has the potential of cutting corners on learning the finer points that an instructor has from his/her many years of diving. Which could cause many diving accidents that could have been avoided.
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MarkT - 7/19/2010 2:13 PM
[Choose #3] Online incourages cheating
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[Choose #4] more hands on with smaller class sizes are required,to ensure good skills and competency.
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[Choose #3] My opinion is rhat one learns much more with the interaction of others and instructors
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[Choose #3] there is absolutely nothing like the variety of interactions and exchange of knowledge, experiences, fears, variations in understanding that take place in a group class situation......reading a book is NOT how to learn the skills divers need!
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tyler - 7/19/2010 1:54 PM
[Choose #2] The initial achademics are good, but some material needs to be covered personally, dive tables i.e., and the final exam done personally to ensure the student knoews the material rather than copying answers.
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[Choose #1] my wife took the knowledge and final exam at home, which was very convenient since she was breast feeding and an at-home mom, at the time. It was was little more expensive but definitely was worth the convenience alone
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[Choose #3] I think that it would be to easy to cheat doing it online. Unless it is supervised who’s to say that they even read the book. That would make for unsafe divers.
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[Choose #1] As long as they have to pass a review test with the instructor that should be good enough
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[Choose #1] But then as an instructor I have to spend extra time in the class to see cheated on line tests and what they really know and then have to essentially re-teach the class and NOT get paid for my time when the online students fail!
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jridg - 7/19/2010 12:59 PM
[Choose #1] The realities of the day require this option.
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[Choose #3] online only would hurt the dive shops, and probaly kill people who fake the test.
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dhink - 7/19/2010 12:54 PM
[Choose #3] There are too many risk involved with diving to allow self teaching. This should only be done in a classroom.
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[Choose #3] I think new divers REALLY need hands on classroom experience with things before getting into the water to better familiarize themselves with what they’ll be doing. It’s just safer that way
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[Choose #4] Books should be required whether online E-book, or conventional book. Reference material is essential in this sport!
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[Choose #3] It helps to be in a class listening to others questions and comments. I don’t like the online environment.
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AdamP - 7/19/2010 12:46 PM
[Choose #3] When doing an online course you wont be able to ask all the questions you have. You also don’t get personal advice from your dive instructor/masters. But I found that watching an informational video was very helpful.
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[Choose #4] I did knowthing online
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[Choose #2] As it is knowledge based, having the book to refer to for the final seems to be lacking the learning aspect of the course.
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[Choose #1] I actually took my OW online which was really nice, however it ended up being a waste of money since the dive shops here were not set up to offer a water only portion of the class and I had to take the class anyway.
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[Choose #1] Not everyone has internet access.
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[Choose #1] Training should be a on going thing throughout your diving career. Keeping in touch and learning new methods
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[Choose #2] Going through the books at home is great, but the test should definitely stay traditional. Dive Tables should be gone over in class too.
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[Choose #3] The theory and knowledge is a very important part of the training, allowing the possibility of it being done by someone other than the trainee is asking for safety issues and poorer standards in the diving community.
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[Choose #4] Has there been a survey on the success rate for either? I do think classroom is better. less distraction
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[Choose #1] It depends on the tyoe of class you are taking and if the exam and book work is to be done at home
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[Choose #3] As an instructor for twenty years, I know from experience that very few people have the intelligence to really understand what they have read. It takes conversation to integrate the concepts involved in the physics and physiology of diving.
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[Choose #3] at home equals 100%. you cant open book the test in a class room setting.
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[Choose #1] Online testing is standard now. As long as skills are reviewed prior to entering water, should be fine.
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[Choose #2] any one could find the answer in the books the whole point is to make sure you understand it and if you have questions who do you ask and its not a good time not to be sure when your allready in the water for you are the trainer
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[Choose #1] However, skills assessment should be thouroughly explained by the instructor
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[Choose #3] I wasn’t allowed a book in the classroom for my test. Unless a person has a really valid reason for not being able to attend class I think it should be required to take the test there. How else can they be sure you know the material?
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[Choose #1] After all, a diver needs to be responsible. If they cheat, they hurt mostly themselves. And as long as the review with the instructor is a serious affair, that should cover the extreme cases.
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[Choose #1] I don’t see any difference. I did both which I feel was an advantage, however, we did take our final in a classroom setting [no cheating!;) ]
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[Choose #3] Considre the danger by possible cheating I think all tests should be supervised
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[Choose #3] How to order attittude online?
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[Choose #1] Still need instructor feedback which you don’t get it you are 100% on line.
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[Choose #1] People with Busy schedules or aren’t located close to a classroom benefit from online.
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[Choose #2] the test at home cannot be monitored to ensure that the student answered. But is all about safety. Anyone can short circuit the system, but it is their safety in jeopardy. Another disclaimer my be required to protect the instructer.
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[Choose #2] need to make sure students truely understand what they have learned, this is serious and dangerous but FUN
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[Choose #3] There is too much at stake to assume it can be done online
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yuval - 7/19/2010 11:08 AM
[Choose #1] however, it is still up to the actual instructor to review and make sure the student really does understand the academics AND understand how what was learned applies in the water
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[Choose #4] I think it depends on the course. Basic OW should never be online only. Some specialized classes are fine IMO.
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[Choose #3] As much as I believe in new technology, talking with another human about this type of activity will always be preferable to me. You just are not going to get the information tied into the local dive environment via a computer.
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[Choose #3] I have not seen the on-line process work well in general. Slow sites and lack of interaction and instructor/shop bonding result in some delays and issues.
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[Choose #2] Taking the final with your DM is a better system than taking it at home with a book. The face to face Q&A with your instructor can’t be replaced with a computer asking you a question and you looking it up in the book.
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[Choose #4] Anything it takes for the info to be learned.
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[Choose #1] I believe they should have a choice for either.
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[Choose #2] The online learning (when done correctly) creates personalized tests. SDI has a testing model that is second to none when it comes to online testing. That can’t be replicated with a book at home.
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[Choose #3] With traditional classroom you have the advantage of an instructor to ask questions
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[Choose #3] any one who has been a diver could do it for them witch is a risk to all who are with that person
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[Choose #1] Everyone has different learning styles. Still, there should always have some time with an instructor in class.
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[Choose #2] Scuba is a dangerous hobby, should not be taken lightly. it’s not something you get up in the morning and decide to do. You have to be taught correctly.
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Maxx - 7/19/2010 10:28 AM
[Choose #2] I feel the interaction between the trainer and diver is very important to the new diver
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[Choose #4] Final Exam should be in the classroom, but I like the idea of doing the knowledge portion online
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[Choose #3] I think as an instructor you want to make sure that your students know the material. if they are having trouble in an area it is the job of the instuctor to notice it and offer extra help if needed. Nothing beats the human factor in learning skills t
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[Choose #4] Exams definately should not be taken online, too easy to cheat.
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Stags - 7/19/2010 10:21 AM
[Choose #3] come on?????
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[Choose #3] This is so important. Your life and the lives of others are at risk and this should not be completed without an instructor there to monitor and answer questions
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[Choose #4] Final exam should be proctored.
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[Choose #4] Online should be for study only with classtime and testing done in the class with a real instructor. Questions get answered real time and the instructor knows he has taught the correct info and knows something about his students abilities.
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[Choose #2] learning to be a safe diver and keeping others safe requires some guidance with a qualified instructor.
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[Choose #2] Online for course instruction, classroom for testing
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Neal - 7/19/2010 10:13 AM
[Choose #2] Your instructor or those in the class have questions or comments that get you thinking and help you understand what you are learning.
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[Choose #3] to easy to cheat and not actually learn correctly
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[Choose #3] For the first certification, I think it should only be classroom, pool and ocean.
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[Choose #2] Final exam should be in person and not open book.
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[Choose #3] Instructor comments and safety emphasis is too important
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[Choose #1] I like to have the book. It is easier to reference later.
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hs83 - 7/19/2010 10:02 AM
[Choose #4] online at home with a quick review test before getting in the water
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[Choose #3] Students and instructors need to interact. Eliminating the classroom interaction is a bad idea.
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[Choose #3] Because of the risk and skill associated with diving, I don’t think online or at home programs are a good idea at all. It’s a time commitment, sure, but well worth it to be able to ask questions and take the proper time to understand.
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[Choose #4] I agree with the study/knowledge reviews at home, but i think the exam should be done in a classroom...
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[Choose #3] the answers are very apparent in the books and i want a buddy that took the time to study and remember the information. its a safety thing not a hurry up and get certified thing
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[Choose #3] Their are many safty issues involved with diving. You cannot learn those through an online course. You should have hands on learning and instruction.
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[Choose #3] I completely disagree with online or distant learning. There’s nothing better than listening to an instructor who has extensive knowledgeand experience in a subject. A person obsorbs more by person to person training.
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wendy - 7/19/2010 9:55 AM
[Choose #3] the dive instructor should get to know the student and ensure they are phisically and mentally competent before even cosidering putting them in the water- classroom time with peirs is part of learning asking questions and listening to others.
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[Choose #3] Student/Teacher interaction is most important. This way the teacher can determine if more time is needed with a student who may need mor explanation. Online also allows someone to "cheat", by having someone give them the answers.
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[Choose #3] As an Instructor, I don’t believe most individuals can get the depth of knowledge needed just by online studies. Q and A is needed.
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[Choose #4] What’s important is "Instructor Led Training(ILT)" vs "online or classroom". ILT could be offered online by a live trainerwith interactive session or in a classroom.
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[Choose #3] to many variables classroom has onhands guidence
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[Choose #3] Anyone can take a test with the answers in their hands!
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[Choose #1] At-home study is fine, especially with more people doing things online, but it’s still the instructor’s DUTY to ensure that the student really does know the practical implications & applications of all materials.
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[Choose #1] if both they can have the choice to which one they want
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[Choose #3] Normally in the classroom you can see and to0uch equiptment that is used.
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[Choose #3] this pressures actual understanding of concepts
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[Choose #1] If the instructor can do a quick review on the information gained then I think either options are good for learning, after all there has been correspondence courses available for many years now.
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[Choose #3] Safety and learning is better in class.
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[Choose #3] Talk to me when you can do online pool and ocean training. Student / Instructor time is already too short.
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[Choose #4] online education and practice exams should be allowed but the actual exam should be in front of an actual instructor-potential cheating will only hurt the student and those who will dive with them.
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Crush - 7/19/2010 9:36 AM
[Choose #3] Taking courses online the student can cheat, which would endanger themselves and others.
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[Choose #1] As long as there learning the material and can ask the instructor questions online why not.
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[Choose #4] exam should be taken with an instructor
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[Choose #3] They can’t tell the difference from which info is crtitical and which isn’t, you can only get that emphasis when your being instructor in person.
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[Choose #3] Need the classroom questions and answers for knowledge.
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[Choose #2] the experiences the good instructors share promote awareness of problems that the programs dont cover.
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[Choose #2] Online is ok... but nothing replaces a learning environment with others to discuss topics, there is so much to learn when talking face to face.
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[Choose #4] where I learned we reviewed, then did the test without the use of the book. I like that approach as it tests how much knowledge is retained.
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[Choose #2] Online is good for getting the basics out there but online students tend to not ask questions, then they never know.
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[Choose #4] What is difference between online or on a book? You can still look up answers!
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[Choose #1] This is an educational development that we will see in all types of vocational and academic education, not just SCUBA training. The dive industry should not fall behind.
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[Choose #1] They should both be allowed but the final should be taken in the classroom
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[Choose #3] Better to have hands on
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[Choose #1] If removing the instructor is already allowed, what difference does the medium make?
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[Choose #2] some people learn better on their own. instructors should still give the test and skills
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[Choose #1] People have different methods of learning and different schedules, so we should encourage others to enter the sport.
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[Choose #2] The exam should be completed at the dive center to ensure student actually is taking the exam. In the end, it’s the instructor’s responsibility (and future liability) not to certify divers who don’t meet the inwater requirements set by their agency.
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[Choose #3] Much of the information needs to be retained, only true knowledge and practice will allow you to do so.
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[Choose #2] I think students need to get in touch with the instructor. Online preparation can be suitable for very busy people (not the best anyway), but there must be some kind of direct evaluation
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[Choose #3] You don’t get the service and one on one help!!!!!
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[Choose #3] Students miss out on the personal interaction with the instructor and do not hear the instructors experiences which can be related to the information presented in the book.
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[Choose #2] Having the book & test makes it too easy. Student should have to demonstrate they truly know the material for safety reasons, if nothing else.
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[Choose #4] I have strong reservations about the effectiveness of on-line training for many people... I don’t feel they truly learn the material and prefer live training with an instructor who can assess their participation
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[Choose #2] Teachers should visibly see that students understand the important concepts, especially safety and emergency training
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Agojo - 7/19/2010 8:42 AM
[Choose #2] testing and review should be interactive with an instructor
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[Choose #3] This sport can be dangerous enough without cutting corners - if you don’t have the time in your schedule to attend a class in person don’t bother.
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[Choose #4] I like the idea studying at home idea , BUT . The FInal EXAM should be taken in CLASS WITH an Instructor
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[Choose #1] as long as a proper review of the exam has been completed I see no reason not to have home study.
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[Choose #3] Adding a computer just adds another failure point.
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[Choose #2] Current training is too short. It’s like a cramming for a college exam. More dives required are needed for basic OW. Standards are too rushed and lax.
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[Choose #2] The Internet makes it too easy for people to bypass some learning protocols, plus, as it is said in Martial Arts circles, "He who trains himself has a fool for a master."
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daz88 - 7/18/2010 12:59 AM
[Choose #4] for thje most part... online for training, NO WAY!
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[Choose #2] A workbook is fine, but the final exam should be in the classroom.
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[Choose #3] classroom allows for open discussion on the subject. None classroom your just memorizing the text with out having then experience of reall diving experiences knowledge that an instructor imparts to a student.
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[Choose #3] There is just too much information to cover and questions to be asked. I think "online scuba" is just a good way to get you hurt. If it were a class such as photography, that would be okay but nothing to do with water training.
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[Choose #2] Classroom education is best in my opinion, but there is room for online too. What is the point of a test if you have unlimited time and resources to complete it?
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[Choose #2] open book or online allows looking up answers
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[Choose #2] as an instructor I like to ensure the students actually know the theory and not just "bluffing" it
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[Choose #1] how do you ensure a closed book exam at home?
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[Choose #1] NAUI students can do the knowledge portion on line, and the instructor an stil have them do the final test in the classroom. I prefer this because I raise the bar for a passing score to 100%.
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[Choose #1] Although I think that classroom instruction is usually better, there are cases where, depending on location and schedule, some people simply can’t get to a local dive shop.
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[Choose #2] You should reviewed by a certified instructor and that can only happen in the classroom.
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[Choose #1] I did both online and water at the resort.. worked great 4 me.
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[Choose #2] both should not be allowed, the online is follwed up with a review exam to verify they have learned the info.students should know the material not just know where to look it up
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[Choose #4] Online should only be used to augment the learning process... As an instructor, I gain invaluable insight into the student’s ability through the face-to-face I get in the class room...
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[Choose #4] I like taking the final at the dive shop it lets them know where u r at in the course
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[Choose #4] Yes! We live 100 miles from the closest training agency. Travel there would have made it darn near impossible to comlete our certs.
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[Choose #1] yes it your life when you dive learn it however you wish!
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[Choose #1] I did OW & AOW online and I had printed manuals. Why not?
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[Choose #1] I dont see any differance in an online exam and one taken at home, especially since you are probably at home when your online :)
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[Choose #2] Open book tests are cheating!
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[Choose #1] we have our online students re-take the final before the get into the pool.
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[Choose #1] If they student is going to cheat, they’ll cheat either way. Give students options and let them pick the best way to learn.
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