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2010 Scuba Diving Survey Q5: Online Learning
Greg - 7/15/2010 4:16 PM
Category: Survey
Replies: 800

Some training agencies allow student divers to complete the knowledge portion of the course online at home, including taking the final exam. Should they also allow student divers to complete the knowledge portion at home with a book and printed exam?

If not, please comment on the differences between taking the course at home online vs. with a book. Either method would require the student to complete a quick review test with the instructor before getting in the water.
divershades - 12/03/2010 12:32 PM
[Choose #3] this is a subject i brought to my dive shop owers attention. Recently i went to do my advanced open water and ended up being the only one in the class due to online training. I feel myself that i take more out of a classroom then online
AndyBSmith - 11/16/2010 6:31 PM
[Choose #3] If you’re at 60 ft, where will your book be if you need to know something?
pmombourquette - 10/03/2010 8:10 AM
[Choose #3] No on-line. You cannot replace an instructor. They can tell if a student requires more help!
Mavricky - 9/28/2010 6:20 PM
[Choose #4] Nothing bad about shops or instructors because mine made sure I knew very well what I was doing. But online or book at home leaves too much room for less concerned shops to turn out production line divers.
Narcosis_Nancy - 9/06/2010 3:10 AM
[Choose #1] If there is a review and final test with the instructor, that should be fine. That’s how we did it in my class.
JillCW - 8/31/2010 7:03 PM
[Choose #1] I think there are many intelligent people out there who can teach themselves with the proper resources. Most will learn best with traditional classroom environment and the most hours possible.
MrFlint - 8/31/2010 1:46 PM
[Choose #4] knowledge online is fine... test should be in person.
DarthDiver - 8/29/2010 9:17 PM
[Choose #4] I think that even the classroom should not be allowed. I would rather see people getting trained out in the field, that should be your classroom.
toodive4 - 8/28/2010 5:49 PM
[Choose #4] They already do this
scampycampy - 8/28/2010 6:21 AM
[Choose #3] there needs to be interaction and Q&A with instructor (online ok if it’s by interactive chat with instructor)
iliv4scuba - 8/27/2010 4:27 PM
[Choose #3] scuba diving takes requires a commitment to yourself, your buddy and the environment. i believe that traditional classes and pool work reinforce that commitment
slippin2darknezz - 8/26/2010 2:04 PM
[Choose #2] beginning knowledge should be taught in a classroom environment learning the concept incorrectly can be disasterous
CptnTypeO - 8/24/2010 11:26 PM
[Choose #1] I think for the knowledge portion should be allowed for both, It allows for a more convience, of course all practicle exercises should be conducted under the watchful eye of an experienced dive master
Landon_me - 8/24/2010 9:41 AM
[Choose #2] Creating poorly trained divers in order to make an extra buck is not acceptable in my opinion. If a student doesn’t know the material they will simply look through the book for the answer.
Argonaut - 8/23/2010 11:58 AM
[Choose #4] Online and home testing would be fine except there is no way to be sure the student is actually taking the test and not cheating by letting someone else take it for them. This makes it imperative that an instructor verify the students knowledge.
Ichabod - 8/23/2010 5:50 AM
[Choose #3] good for the agency bad for the local dive shop
scrubrat2 - 8/22/2010 7:48 PM
[Choose #2] study and review at home then classroom
flyingfrawg - 8/22/2010 5:22 PM
[Choose #1] So you still have to print out the exam and take it to your instructor with the agency I use...
rondaniel - 8/21/2010 1:22 PM
[Choose #3] I learned a lot more from the classroom than I would have from an online program.
j_Scuba - 8/21/2010 10:44 AM
[Choose #2] No cheatting, more direct, someboddy can answer questions
HeatherG - 8/21/2010 10:15 AM
[Choose #2] The younger generation has been raised with the computer and often learns best in this environment. If book study @home, test under supervision. Scuba info needs to be memorized, not looked-up. No books underwater if U get in trouble...
Sharkbait55 - 8/20/2010 9:54 PM
[Choose #2] Ensures knowledge is really gone over and the student has an oppertunity to learn from others
WarmWaterTurner - 8/20/2010 3:08 PM
[Choose #2] I certified via SSI. They are online study/class prep only. We then had lecture and ultimately testing in the class. I would not want to do without out the class discussion because a lot of good explanation came out of that.
erbeh - 8/20/2010 3:05 PM
[Choose #3] questions can be answered, by the instructor
Persian-Diver - 8/20/2010 12:52 PM
[Choose #2] People might just do the test by help of book rather than learning them and doing the test.
Shez - 8/20/2010 12:37 PM
[Choose #3] I think learning is a two way thing and the instructor needs to be present with the pupil in order to ensure the correct level of training is received, the test is just evidence of that
ptanimal - 8/20/2010 12:21 PM
[Choose #2] can’t look at a manual underwater
rsmith4656 - 8/20/2010 8:19 AM
[Choose #3] While I am not an instructor, it is always best to have an interpersonal instruction time so the studens skills and knowledge can be properly assest
james4964 - 8/19/2010 5:15 PM
[Choose #2] both are acceptable but not just online
trace - 8/19/2010 1:57 AM
[Choose #3] old school perhaps, traditional you can ask questions al you go
TylerDurden - 8/18/2010 11:53 AM
[Choose #3] There is no feedback from a Dive Master Online.. You have to teach people different ways and give real life examples to fully understand diving concepts. Online may work for Math 101, but not for Diving.
ereediver - 8/18/2010 11:04 AM
[Choose #2] The test should be taken at a location to limit cheating
TDSDiver - 8/17/2010 8:37 PM
[Choose #3] I feel that those that learn online really suffer by not having a live instructor to ask questions of when they come up.
Ari - 8/17/2010 4:11 PM
[Choose #2] Online can be timed to make sure they aren’t cheating...
bubblesup - 8/17/2010 3:44 PM
[Choose #2] Finals should be taken with the instructor
scubaschwab - 8/17/2010 2:54 PM
[Choose #1] And the option to have the confined water dive instructor verify knowledge was retained before proceeding.
SoCal_Kevin - 8/17/2010 12:05 PM
[Choose #4] I don’t think online should be an option for a basic open water class, but should be allowed for certain specialty classes.
JOE - 8/17/2010 7:56 AM
[Choose #3] in the traditional classroom you can see if the student is familiar with the subject or if he is just faking it
PugetS_Diver - 8/16/2010 7:56 PM
[Choose #1] It allows flexibility to those with busy schedules.
jason_tucker - 8/16/2010 11:57 AM
[Choose #3] I do not think online they get the knowledge they would need to know that they get from classroom.
Montanaman - 8/15/2010 11:33 PM
[Choose #4] Depends on the subject matter
azskyandsea - 8/15/2010 1:33 PM
[Choose #3] A solid grasp of the knowledge is needed when putting yourself in a technical environment
neilcp - 8/15/2010 12:39 AM
[Choose #3] Traditional classroom allows for the student to gains from actual experienced the instructor might discuss, which is unavailable in canned online courses..
rsuave - 8/15/2010 12:04 AM
[Choose #1] Although i think both should be allowed, I prefer the online method. With today’s techology I do not see the printed materials being used much longer.
gunman200081 - 8/13/2010 5:17 PM
[Choose #1] You should be allowed to take the test and exam at home so you can do it on your time. But the instructor should ask you a lot of questions to make sure you understand the knowledge.
ToyotaTerrorist - 8/13/2010 2:55 PM
[Choose #3] Open book final exams will lead to a spike in diving deaths IMHO
tresguey - 8/11/2010 9:10 PM
[Choose #3] I feel hands on traing is best for this type of activity.
ROYM - 8/11/2010 1:05 PM
[Choose #4] Training should be offered VIA class room or E-learning. Exams should be done only in person under supervision of a certified Instructor.
Catman - 8/11/2010 11:32 AM
[Choose #3] online can’t deal with some of the issues people have. To the industry it’s usually all about the money!
tswtrskier56 - 8/11/2010 11:21 AM
[Choose #4] its kindof a tough call, because really, the student is responsible for retaining the info they learn. if you cheat on this, its life and death mistakes. its not like you get a do-over 100 ft deep. learn it, live it.
sparkey - 8/10/2010 8:22 PM
[Choose #3] i believe the classroom you get more instruction
Divin_DnT - 8/10/2010 6:38 PM
[Choose #2] There’s no reason they shouldn’t be able to study the material online and take chapter reviews. But a written final should ONLY be given in the presence of an instructor WITHOUT an open book! This is life or death knowledge students must KNOW!
RockPro - 8/10/2010 4:37 PM
[Choose #1] I think we all agree it’s getting the knowlege in, and being able to demonstrate it. The exams are pretty casual even in classroom anyway.. the demontration should be more crutial though for online
tadeotadeo - 8/10/2010 9:36 AM
[Choose #4] Learning online or at home or in classroom is ok final exam should be taken in classroom only
Synike - 8/08/2010 9:35 PM
[Choose #3] Many people like easy way out.I’ve heard students asking an already certified person to take the test for them...diving is playing with your life if you don’t know the basic rules...I’d take exams as serious as possible,in person,in classroom!
GaryCT - 8/08/2010 3:06 PM
[Choose #1] Online pricing is currently too high for Padi courses.
nauidiver - 8/07/2010 8:53 PM
[Choose #3] Should be in front of a instructor in the classroom. Helps you get more out of the course that your paying for to be as safe as you can be in the water!
Paco103 - 8/06/2010 11:36 PM
[Choose #1] If you can take the test on a computer, there should be no reason not to take a printed test. I think an instructor review is a good idea. It’s a nice convenience for some people with limited time.
Plumber63 - 8/06/2010 11:29 PM
[Choose #3] It is hard to ask a computer screen a Question..
iluvczm - 8/06/2010 6:50 PM
[Choose #3] With a sport where your life & the life of others is a stake any chance for cheating should not be allowed. Self testing is like performing self surgery. Leave it to a professional.
IceCube - 8/06/2010 4:31 PM
[Choose #4] Online allowed, but exam should be taken in traditional classroom or proctored where education testing is offered (e.g. school, library, military ed office, etc)
iScuba - 8/06/2010 12:46 PM
[Choose #4] It’s my believe that more can be learned at one’s own pace, but not everything can be learned without proper instruction. Online learning has its advantages, but classroom learning engages the learner in a way that online learning cannot.
scuba-joe - 8/06/2010 9:38 AM
[Choose #1] If PADI and other agencies agree that it can be done online then who are we to judge. It’s hard to fine time to take classes these days. The online class portion sounds fine to me, as long as the skills are still done with a licensed instructor.
hoofpick - 8/06/2010 9:23 AM
[Choose #4] On line is OK but it doesn’t replace being in the classroom with the instructior. New divers need to know the instructor, after all this is the person they are going to be underwater with. It also increases the cost of the lessons for the new diver.
Rhonda - 8/06/2010 9:05 AM
[Choose #4] not sure
webrunner - 8/06/2010 8:01 AM
[Choose #2] trusting for honesty isn’t always the best idea.. there has to be some sort of control.
warren2343 - 8/05/2010 11:53 PM
[Choose #4] you have to pay twice 1 to take the online oart 2 for the instructor to train you in the water
NashvilleAquanut - 8/05/2010 8:30 PM
[Choose #2] there is pros and cons to both but I feel the one on one experience with the instructors makes for a better and more confident diver.
txbairdiver - 8/05/2010 7:15 PM
[Choose #3] traditional is best,, more learning not just good test taking
ljscuba - 8/05/2010 11:07 AM
[Choose #1] online is good becouse some times we don’t have time to go to a dive shop for classes it works out for singel mom’s and dad’s
Gottado - 8/05/2010 7:40 AM
[Choose #2] With the PADI Online courses, the students come to their pool and open water sessions more prepared that even those students that are supposed to do their work and videos before they come to class. Online works very well.
noeltime13 - 8/05/2010 5:41 AM
[Choose #3] A life surviving sport should require professional traditional training for numerous reasons.
SherlThePerl - 8/05/2010 2:11 AM
[Choose #1] some people will always like and do better in private online while other benefit from the interaction of a classroom environment.
ikickm - 8/04/2010 7:29 PM
[Choose #2] I have only had classroom time, but I could see where having some of the class time online would be helpful to the person that has a schedule that won’t work with the local dive shops.
jeff98208 - 8/04/2010 4:03 PM
[Choose #1] however final exams should be done in the classroom
Pixel - 8/04/2010 2:41 PM
[Choose #3] It’s always better to learn in class with something that where one little mistake could potentially kill you or someone else.
theop - 8/04/2010 11:03 AM
[Choose #1] as long as the intructor is available to explain or clarify the online material - there is nothing wrong with self study. Of course the quality of the study materials ( online or text ) is important
rachelb7 - 8/04/2010 8:58 AM
[Choose #1] I did my coursework online and felt it was convenient and thorough
AlbertChuang - 8/03/2010 2:29 AM
[Choose #3] because it will be more detail and clear if we got the explanation directly from the instructor, diving is fun but it must be safety first.
millertime - 8/02/2010 3:44 PM
[Choose #3] interaction with other students and their questions may be helpful where an online student may not be exposed to the question let alone the answer. A classroom also allows you to meet other divers and form friendships and dive buddies in the future.
Chappy - 8/01/2010 2:09 PM
[Choose #3] Anyone can take the class for you if it is done online. Plus you don’t have the ability to have that one on one experience with the instructor.
JERM - 7/31/2010 8:59 PM
[Choose #3] It’s too easy to cheat and that makes a hardship on the Instructor
scubaclay - 7/31/2010 3:57 PM
[Choose #3] Students can not get questions answered in a timely fasson
buzzbrown - 7/30/2010 4:05 PM
[Choose #2] Help should be given to those who can not pass.
pogiguy2009 - 7/30/2010 1:17 PM
[Choose #4] I think some is not a bad thing but most training should be in a classroom with a trainer as it is best to learn from experianced trained divers.
MBDiver - 7/29/2010 9:10 AM
[Choose #1] Although studying at home is fine, there are always some people who would need questions answered and it definitely helps to have the instructor right there.
DivemasterofOknawa - 7/27/2010 11:37 PM
[Choose #4] I have made many trips diving with someone I thought was a trained diver, turns out he had been diving with friends before I came along. Good judgement, and skills makes good divers, not books.
BGERICKSON - 7/26/2010 4:52 PM
Piscador - 7/26/2010 12:49 PM
[Choose #1] If you allow one then the other should be also. I believe in instructors and class time as being the best though.
jnowak100 - 7/26/2010 11:40 AM
[Choose #1] I dont want to spend vacation days in a classroom, and many places are not convenient for traditional classes
randydkc - 7/26/2010 10:10 AM
[Choose #2] You should take tests in the classroom but online learning allows you to take the test without looking in the book and notifies the shop of your progress
Mistersharkbait - 7/26/2010 12:20 AM
[Choose #3] I’m old school-
allstarwa - 7/25/2010 8:20 PM
[Choose #4] On line course classroom test. You need to get it. Everyones too spoiled with computers
JustinK - 7/25/2010 5:15 PM
[Choose #3] Not eveyone can understand dive physics among other subjects without someone there to explain. I had a girlfriend do the PADI online OW class. I thought it was very good, except she needed me there to explain a lot of things.
LandSeaAir - 7/25/2010 3:58 PM
[Choose #1] If one then the other. I did the online class before going to Saba and not only did it save time(I spent good money to go) but it also made it possible for me to have my first two dives the first afternoon after my pool time.
ozphx - 7/25/2010 10:19 AM
[Choose #3] Hands on is the best way!
h2ofria - 7/25/2010 8:23 AM
[Choose #1] No logical reason for one to be okay and not the other.
Tom4Diveheart - 7/23/2010 9:59 PM
[Choose #1] Until more people are online I don’t think it’s okay to discriminate between those with technology and thsoe without.
JimSTX - 7/23/2010 5:45 PM
[Choose #3] I’m concerned with safety. Online is handy, but I worry about it becoming the default mode esp. because it has to be designed really well to work, and doesn’t give the student access to the instructor’s expertise. Also, it undercuts local shops.
b3d - 7/23/2010 2:37 PM
[Choose #3] traditional classroom setting so all questions can be answered