Rich: actually, I did get quite cold on that dive too, even after what seemed like a never ending kick out to the spot ;) it’s my suit, it’s just done for. Going to check out the pinnacles as suggested, but seems like every suit I become interested in, leisurepro doesn’t have in stock!! Anyone heard anything good/bad or otherwise about aqualung SolAfx? I read some good things about it online but don’t know anyone who’s dove it. And again, thanks everyone!!!