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#50591
How many seconds of air do you have with free flow or hose failure?
Greg - 3/09/2016 9:38 AM
Category: Training
Replies: 7

Here is a great video by Advanced Diver Magazine:

advanceddivermagazine.com/articles/lifeending.html

It shows how long it takes for an Aluminum 80 cu/ft 3000 psi tank to go to 0 psi during a regulator free flow, low pressure hose failure, and high pressure hose failure at the surface, 66ft and 132ft.

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Eric_R - 3/09/2016 10:31 AM
In an actual dive you would have less as you would have to get to that depth where they are starting with a full tank.
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Viron - 3/09/2016 7:38 PM
How many cubic feet are we starting with and what depth are we starting at?

At 60ft starting at 100cuft you could have 3-5 minutes of air assuming we are talking about the second stage which would be appropriate for a free flowing regulator.

Would you be better dumping your whole regulator and breathing off the bottle by cracking the valve as necessary?
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Curtis - 3/09/2016 8:30 PM
"Would you be better dumping your whole regulator and breathing off the bottle by cracking the valve as necessary?"

Breathing directly from a bottle is more stunt than practical.

If you’re diving a single with single valve, and within NDLs, a controled ascent and switching to your buddy’s secondary as you empty to complete a stop if necisary be a far better strategy. If your buddy misses the "show", time for a new one.

Had a free-flowing reg years ago, was able to "feather" the valve to slow the flow so I could breath the reg with less waste, free-flow stopped as I went below about 1800 psig (from a 3500 fill). Actually shortened but did not abort that dive. But you’d have to be calm and thinking (and able to reach your valve), not anxious, to do this.

These days, would just close the appropriate valve on the dubs and turn.
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Osoleil - 3/10/2016 9:40 AM
I am surprised to see that a free flow ran out of air a tank in 2 minutes. I had an issue with a student who had a free flow at 1.5 atm and within seconds the tank emptied ! I only had time to pick her up to the surface to see that her tank was a 0 !!! less than 30 seconds....
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Osoleil - 3/10/2016 9:41 AM
But I shared this video on my FB page
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MrManta - 3/13/2016 1:47 PM
With a free flowing reg, you have plenty of time to get to the surface, your cheeks might take a beating a bit...hehe Often times, it usually your backup reg that free flows from lack of use. As far as hose failure...if it is the low pressure hose bursting, depending on what you have in your tank when it happens, you can usually get up with no problem. With a high pressure hose depending on how old the hose is. A really old hose has a large ID where it screws into the reg, which means that if you blow a hose watch out it will be like bull whip, and you will have to get a hold on it before you sustain some damage. Fortunately most all in use now have a pin size hole (Safety) allowing pressure to register, but not a lot of air volume escaping, and you can still come up safely, although if you don’t have a spare hose, your dive is over.
Hope this helps, just my opinion, after 50 yrs diving.........