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Training question?
ICONdiver - 10/31/2016 10:41 AM
Category: Training
Replies: 16

Thoughts on giant stride entry with no fins on? Just something I observed and wanted opinions.
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JohnDiver123 - 10/31/2016 1:03 PM
I wouldn’t do it.
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ICONdiver - 10/31/2016 1:22 PM
I was taught to never enter the water without mask and fins in place and teach my students the same. This was something that I observed another person teaching and thought I might have missed the boat on the logic of it.
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coralreefpainter - 10/31/2016 1:33 PM
There are several teaching/certifying organizations, and they aren’t always "on the same page" about what to teach.

Long ago I got halfway through an instructor training school that had the philosophy that they would make me into a great diver, and then I would make my own teaching program to teach! No support from headquarters! That is why PADI got so big, they give their instructors a well laid out system of teaching that covers what the beginner needs to know. (No, not an advertisement for this agency, just my experience)
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lerpy - 11/01/2016 3:48 PM
I would never splash without my fins on, when you hit the water your going to sink as was said and you are going to have basically little to no power in your kick. I see this on boats when drift diving, people will take there fins off before getting to the boat, then struggle with swimming to a boat that is moving in a current. In a controlled environment, if you haven’t already, fully gear up, walk into the water, and try and swim with all your gear on and no fins.
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Eric_R - 11/02/2016 10:25 AM
There are only a few situations where this might be necessary. Did you ask why?
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coralreefpainter - 11/02/2016 11:12 AM
OK, Eric_R, which situations? There must be some, but I can’t think of one right off....
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ICONdiver - 11/02/2016 1:13 PM
Didn’t ask why. I didn’t think interrupting their class was the time or place to do that.
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Eric_R - 11/05/2016 8:13 AM
From coralreefpainter: OK, Eric_R, which situations? There must be some, but I can’t think of one right off....

Off a dock where the water is shallow and the bottom is muck. It sucks packing muck into your fins.
Off a boat close to shore where your getting out and walking your gear to shore.
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Pdillard - 11/05/2016 4:31 PM
Well always check your gear. Including your fins. If you are in choppy water and trying to maintain buoyancy and control you will see why fins are important. If you have to swim any distance at all it will tire you out. Then you might become a victim, Once you jump in with no fins. Try to kick to surface. Thats tough. You may be aped to inflate your BC too much I’m just saying. Usually dive accidents happen because of poor judgement. Double check your gear!
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coralreefpainter - 11/07/2016 10:44 AM
Eric_R. OK, hum. Into muck, your fins might stay more on the surface. That’s a call. Oh cheese, yes, if you’re hopping off a boat in a few feet of water, and plan to walk. Ha, almost a trick question!
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Badlander316 - 11/22/2016 6:22 AM
One of the last skills I make my students do is swim the length of the pool, midwater, without fins on to see how much harder it is. We teach this skill to our DMs as well so that they emphasize to never enter the water without proper equipment on. Same as having air in your BCD if you are within falling distance to the water.
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coralreefpainter - 11/22/2016 8:44 AM
Badlander, see his reply a few letters above—- "Off a dock where the water is shallow and the bottom is muck. It sucks packing muck into your fins.
Off a boat close to shore where your getting out and walking your gear to shore."
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AlexRobinson - 5/25/2017 9:28 AM
I think it isn’t good idea to do such thing, I wouldn’t do it.
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sdweller - 7/16/2017 10:41 AM
Off of a boat, never a good idea.